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Synthesis, Speechlessness, and Snark

Sasha’s synthesis events were pretty good overall, though there are the usual instances of awkward grammar and Cloche using painfully improper speech, like:

Cloche:
JP: 店のおじさんだったかしら?
EN: Was it a shopkeep guy?
NEW: Did he work at the store?

and

Cloche:
JP: というよりも、今の時点でまったくわけのわからないものになってるから…。
EN: More like, I have no idea what it is right now so...
NEW: More precisely, I have no idea what it is at this point...

My favorite part of doing synthesis with Sasha, though, is when something like this happens:

Sasha:
JP: 簡単に言うと、強力なD波をジェネレートするための機械です。あまりに強力すぎて、
  バイナリ野での使用は、周囲の不整合を生むほどです。ですから、プログラムされた
  仮想世界でこれを使うと…
EN: To sum it up, it's a machine that generates strong D-waves.
  It's so strong that using it in the Binary Field causes
  inconsistencies. So in a programmed virtual world, using this
  will...
NEW: Put simply, it's a machine to generate powerful D-waves.
  They're so strong that using it in the Binary Field causes
  localized discrepancies. Therefore, using this in a programmed
  virtual world would...

Everyone else: ...

Sasha:
JP: あ、えっとですね。D波はグラスノが放出している波っていうの知ってますよね?
EN: Oh, um. You know that D-waves are waves emitted by Grathnodes,
  right?
NEW: Ah, um. You know that D-waves are the waves Grathnode emits,
  right?

Everyone else: ...

It’s too bad Jakuri doesn’t do any synthesis here. She’d be able to make sense of what Sasha’s talking about. She certainly makes her presence known in the Cynthia events, though, where the combination of Croix and Jakuri often turns the snark up to eleven. Cynthia is usually oblivious, particularly when Jakuri is (superficially) agreeing with her arguably psychotic opinions, but is more likely just being sarcastic. Croix’s dry humor is more of the brutally honest variety, so the interplay often gets to be amusing.

Cynthia:
JP: 多分、使用者もろとも空の彼方へ飛んでっちゃうからね。
EN: I think it'll even make the wielder go flying into the horizon.
NEW: It'd probably fly off to the horizon and take the user with it.

Jakuri:
JP: 凄いわ……。ここまで乙女心を感じさせるものにするなんて。
EN: That's amazing... You can feel the girliness so clearly.
NEW: Amazing... Such a powerful sense of girlish feeling.

...

Croix:
JP: バーニアのどこが乙女心なんだ?
EN: What part of the vernier is girly?
NEW: What part of the vernier has to do with girlish feelings?

Jakuri:
JP: ……最低ね。これがわからないなんて、鈍感を通り越して罪よ。
EN: ...You suck. If you can't understand, you're beyond dull. It's
  a sin.
NEW: ...You suck. Not understanding this is a crime surpassing
  thickheadedness.

Cynthia:
JP: 悪く言わないであげて。クー君はちょっと罪深い鈍感男なだけなんだよ。
EN: Don't be too mean to him. Coo's just a sinful, dull man.
NEW: Don't be so hard on him. Coo's just a criminally dense man.

Jakuri:
JP: ふん……。これからは少し、見る目をつけるための努力をしなさい。
EN: Hmph... You can at least make effort into knowing what to look
  for.
NEW: Hmph... Make a little more effort to have a discerning eye.

Croix:
JP: 俺には一生かかってもわからないと断言できるよ。
EN: I can tell you now. Even a lifetime isn't enough for me to
  understand.
NEW: I can assure you that I wouldn't understand even after a
  lifetime of trying.

See? You could argue that Jakuri actually means what she’s saying, but I think she’s just mocking the concept.

Jakuri:
JP: ……ごちそうさま。
EN: ...Show offs.
NEW: ...Get a room, you two.

Cynthia’s behavior around Croix makes everyone uncomfortable. That comment doesn’t work unless it’s adequately clear what Jakuri is talking about. The bit of extra sarcasm also suits her better.

Cynthia:
JP: お、恐ろしい……。ジャクリちゃん、恐ろしいよ。
EN: Y-you're fearful... Jacqli, so fearful.
NEW: F-fearsome... Jakuri, you're fearsome.

“Fearful” more correctly means “afraid” (full of fear) than “frightening” (causing fear in others). “Fearsome” is the oher way around. Jakuri is much closer to fearless than fearful.

Cynthia:
JP: そうだよ。これで戦っているクー君…きっと超カッコイイだろうなぁ…。
EN: Yup. Coo, fighting in this outfit... I bet it'll be super
  awesome...
NEW: Yup. Coo, fighting with this... I bet you'll look so cool...

That comes after they’ve made a weapon. How did an outfit get mixed up in that?

Jakuri:
JP: これはね、他人との息をピッタリ合わせるのに使う機械なのよ。
EN: This is a machine that lets you match perfectly with other
  people.
NEW: This, you see, is a machine you use to perfectly match your
  breathing with someone else.

Sometimes details go missing. There’s also a hint of a superior attitude that went missing, too.

Jakuri:
JP: 間違われたらそいつもこれで返り討ちにすればいいのよ。
EN: Then you beat them up with this instead.
NEW: Then you just use this to take out anyone who gets the wrong idea.

Croix:
JP: それだと悪役じゃなくて悪人そのものじゃないか?
EN: That's a real villain.
NEW: Wouldn't that make me outright evil instead of just seeming like
  a bad guy?

One of several exchanges that suffered.

Cynthia:
JP: そうだなぁ、使うときは半径50000ストン以内に民家や街がない事を確認して。
EN: Hmm, make sure there's no homes or towns within a 50,000 stone
  radius.
NEW: Hmm, make sure there aren't any houses or towns within a 50,000
  Ston radius when you use it.

Cloche:
JP: 50000ストン…って…この世界全体でも直径30000ストンも無いのよ!?
EN: 50,000 stone... But... The entire world isn't even 30,000 stone
  in diameter!
NEW: 50,000 Stons... wait... our whole world isn't even 30,000 Stons
  in diameter!

The unit of distance is normally a Ston, not a stone, but other than that, they did fine here. This is more interesting for the information it gives. A Ston is equal to 3.1 meters according to the Ar tonelico wiki, which gives the bomb a radius of nearly 100 miles and makes Metafalss under 58 miles in diameter. For comparison, the land around Ar tonelico (the Wings of Horus) during the Third Era measures roughly 140,000 Stons (270 miles) by 115,000 Stons (220 miles), most of that being a solid landmass. In other words, Sol Ciel has around 16 billion square Stons (60,000 square miles) of land, roughly the size of the state of Georgia, while Metafalss would barely amount to 700 million square Stons (2,600 square miles), around the size of Delaware, even if the entire area were solid land, which it isn’t. I’d estimate from art of the region that the actual land area is maybe one third of that, probably less, with significant portions (like the Ironplate Desert) that are uninhabitable. Now recall that the population is roughly one million…

Fun Talks with Cloche

First, in event introductions:

Cloche:
JP:  あ、クロア!も、もう…来るならこんな遅い時間に来なくても、もっと早く…い、いえ、
   何でも無いわ。
EN: Croix! You didn't have to visit this late. You should have
   come earlier...or not at all.
NEW: Oh, Croix! G-good grief... if you're going to come, you
   should come earlier, not at such a late... n-no, it's nothing.

The EN sounds like she’s still being hostile, or at least fussy over when he visits. What actually happens looks more like she starts to object on principle, then decides she doesn’t really mind after all and drops the objection.

There’s also an unused line, probably a leftover from the first game’s Level E.

Cloche:
JP:  このレベルは無いみたいよ。早々に立ち去りなさい。
EN: There is no level here. Now leave.
NEW: This level does not seem to exist. Leave at once.

Incidentally, Luca has one too, and hers is more interesting:

Luca:
JP:  あ、クロア。今作はこのレベルは無いんだって。あはんうふんしたかったのに
   残念だねー。
EN: Apparently they don't have this level right now. Too bad
   'cause we could've...you know what.
NEW: Hey, Croix. I hear this level isn't in this game. It's
   too bad, I wanted to... you know.

Moving on , here are some samples from the conversations:

Cloche:
JP: とにかく、今後はこういうことがないように気をつけなさい!
   また何か思うことがあった時は、こうして話をしますから覚悟しなさい。
EN: Anyway, don't let it happen again, okay?
   If the same thing happens again, I'll lecture you like
   I just did. Be ready for that.
NEW: In any case, take care that no such thing happens in the
   future! If I think of anything else, I will have words with
   you like this again, so be prepared for it.

Croix:
JP: (えらいことになったなぁ……)
EN: (Oh, my...)
NEW: (This has turned into a real mess...)

This is from her very first talk topic. She needs to sound pretentious and bossy for it to have the proper impact. This says a lot about her characterization early in the game: “I just chewed you out over something that’s not really a big deal. I’ll do it again if I think of anything else, too, so you’d damn well better be ready for it.” Croix, meanwhile, starts to realize what he’s gotten himself into.

Croix:
JP: 聞く耳持たない辻斬りを相手にするのと同じでしたよ。
EN: It was the same as dealing with a bandit who jumps on
   you without saying a word.
NEW: It was like dealing with an uncaring villain bent on
   testing a newly-forged sword blade on me.

Somehow, though, Croix still manages to speak his mind when it matters. He isn’t terribly happy about what happens in his first attempted Dive, especially when Cloche starts accusing him of trying to do something improper to her in her Cosmosphere, so he responds with this bit of witty metaphor. 辻斬り refers to trying out the edge on a new sword, or simply testing one’s skill, against a random passerby on the roadway. Apparently it was once a common enough problem to warrant specifically banning the practice. In short, he’s found a (relatively) polite way to say she acted like a murderous psychopath.

Croix:
JP: そういえば、ぺぺんべいのことですけど……。
EN: By the way, regarding that Pippencuit...
NEW: Come to think of it, about Pepenscuits...

Cloche:
JP: ……なにそれ?
EN: ...What in hell is that thing?
NEW: ...What are those?

That one was both awkwardly phrased and out of character. Sad, really.

Cloche:
JP: 御子なのがバレた時よりも、そのフォローの方がキツかったわ。
EN: What you said was worse than Cocona's revelation.
NEW: What came after was worse than when she found out
   I was the Maiden.

Here, we have a line that has nothing to do with what Croix said (he barely speaks in the relevant scene) and absolutely nothing to do with Cocona (who isn’t even in the scene referenced). Sometimes I wonder if the translators, and any underpaid overworked proofreaders they may have had, were banned from referring to other parts of the game text.

Cloche:
JP: ルカって、もしかして物凄くだらしなかったりするのかしら?
EN: Doesn't Luca normally wear dirty outfits?
NEW: Would Luca happen to be an exceptionally messy person?

This has everything to do with general tidiness, and is only vaguely related to outfits.

Cloche :3:32948:
JP: ……ああ、教皇の間のあれね。
EN: ...Ah, that throne in the Pope's hall?
NEW: ...Oh, you mean the one in the throne room.

Going out of the way to mention the Pope in English is probably more confusing than helpful, even though the word is there in Japanese. 教皇の間 (which is literally “Pope’s hall” or something very similar) is a derivation of 王の間 (“King’s hall”), which is simply called a “throne room” in English. Since a throne is still a throne whether a king or a pope sits upon it, there’s no reason to call the room anything unusual.

Croix:
JP: (そういうのが好きな人もいるんだが……)
EN: (I personally know someone who loves ghosts.)
NEW: (Actually, some people love that sort of thing...)

It’s funny how generalities sometimes turn into specifics for no reason.

Croix:
JP: 随分早くルカと仲直りしたみたいですね。
EN: You and Luca seem to have reconciled. That was so soon.
NEW: You and Luca seem to have reconciled remarkably quickly.

Cloche:
JP: 仲直りも何も、ケンカというところまで行ってないもの。
EN: Well, you haven't fought, so you don't need to reconcile
   in the first place.
NEW: There was nothing to reconcile. After all, we didn't go
   as far as fighting.

The dispute was clearly between Luca and Cloche, so why would Croix need to reconcile anything?

Croix:
JP: さーしゃ、随分と元気になりましたね。クローシェ様、一体何をしたんですか?
EN: Sasha, you look fine. What did you do for her, Lady Cloche?
NEW: Sasha was much more cheerful. What did you do, Lady Cloche?

Since when is Sasha in the bedroom or tent with them when they’re talking at night? That’s a bit creepy…

Cloche:
JP: ジャクリも同じようなコスモスフィアだけど、やっぱり、
   ああいうのって練習とかすれば出来るようになるのかしら?
EN: Jacqli's Cosmosphere is still somewhat similar to ours.
   I wonder if I can train to make such a world as hers?
NEW: Jakuri has a Cosmosphere much like it as well.
   Could that mean it's possible to do that sort of thing
   through practice?

Jakuri’s Cosmosphere is similar to Frelia’s Binary Field, not to Cloche and Luca’s Cosmospheres.

Croix:
JP: ……けど、なんか悪人って言うよりはなんていうか。
EN: ...But anyway, she is more than just an evil girl...
NEW: ...But she's not so much a villainess as a... how should
   I put it?

Cloche:
JP: 言葉の悪い不良娘、って感じの方が強いわよね。
EN: Yeah, she's more an unfriendly delinquent girl.
NEW: She gives a stronger impression of being a badmouthed
   juvenile delinquent.

You can probably guess who this is talking about. Wouldn’t they be surprised if the knew about some of the things she did…

Croix:
JP: けど実際問題、100人まで行くとは思いませんでしたよ。
   100人の魔法で攻撃される敵も、なんとなく哀れに思えてくることありますし……。
EN: But as a matter of fact, I didn't think they would get any
   more than 100 members. I feel rather bad for those enemies
   who get attacked by more than 100 Reyvateils with their
   powerful magic.
NEW: But the fact of the matter is that I never expected it
   would go as far as a hundred members. I almost feel sorry
   for the enemies being attacked with magic from a hundred
   people...

No one says anything about going beyond one hundred.

Cloche:
JP: で、でも、サイズが合わなくて着れなかったのよ。
EN: But, it was too small at the chest. I had to give up...
NEW: B-but the size was all wrong and I couldn't wear it...

While it’s possible that it’s what she means, there’s no mention of her chest.

Cloche:
JP: べ、別に変な意味じゃなくて!ただ、えっと……。
   ……どうせ寝るだけなんだから、ここで寝ても問題は無いかなって……。
EN: I didn't mean that! I just...
   ...We're just going to sleep and that'll be all.
   I was wondering if you would mind if I slept here with you...
NEW: N-not in any funny way! But, um...
   ...As long as you're going to bed anyway, there's no
   problem if you sleep here...

First, she’s protesting in advance that she doesn’t mean what she’s about to say in any sexual way, not taking back something she already said. Second, they’re in Cloche’s room, so it would be him sleeping here with her, not her sleeping here with him.

And finally, here’s part of the conversation voted most likely to prompt Croix to just give up and quit the Knights while he still has some dignity left:

Cloche:
JP: ……まさか、変な趣味があって避けられてるとかじゃないでしょうね?
EN: ...Is it because you have some kind of perversion and
   they're all avoiding you?
NEW: ...It couldn't be that you have deviant interests that
   cause you to be avoided, could it?

Croix:
JP: 俺をどういう目で見てるのかは知りませんが、そういうことじゃありませんから……。
EN: I don't know what you think of me as, but that's not the case.
NEW: I'm not sure how you see me, but it's nothing like that...

Cloche:
JP: じゃあどうしてなの?女性嫌いとか?それとも、あのココナちゃんみたいな
   小さい子じゃないとダメだとか?
EN: Then why? Are you immune to girls? Or, can you only function
   in the presence of a young girl, like Cocona?
NEW: Why, then? Perhaps you dislike women? Or perhaps you need
   her to be a little girl, like that Cocona?

Croix:
JP: ……パートナーのことはさておき、まずはその勘違いのことから話しませんか?
EN: ...Before we talk about a partner, why don't we talk about
   this misunderstanding you have about me?
NEW: ...Could we set aside the question of a partner and first
   discuss your misunderstandings about me?

Poor Croix. First Cloche suggests that he has some kind of disturbing fetish that scares off potential Reyvateil partners, then she questions his sexuality and practically accuses him of being a pedophile. On the other hand, I have to wonder what it says about her that she tends to imagine a perverted explanation whenever she doesn’t understand something. Croix has no partner? He must have some weird sexual kink. Luca’s a Dive Therapist? That’s obviously just a fancy name for a whore. Croix gets kicked out when he Dives? Clearly he must have tried something inappropriate. And so on…

Another small update

Well, we haven’t advanced as much as we would have liked during the last past few months, but anyway, here are a few news I’d like to announce:

We have a new member on the team, void, who is helping us in the editing and coding fronts. He has solved a little bug we weren’t able of figuring out before, which caused the game to crash at points that dealt with special text formats, and is currently serving as our main editor. I’ve worked with him during the last few weeks, and I must say that he has done a pretty good job editing the text for the tutorials, and the entire Phase 1.

I just hope we can continue relying on him for the days to come, and that the translation part doesn’t take much more to finish.

Also, considering the time of the year in which we are now, I can only say, in behalf of all the team: Happy Holidays!